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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2014.07.08 06:56:00 -
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SCLZ wrote:Looking at some of those numbers 5b ISK seems a little low for him to aim for if he planned to cash out I would have thought? 5B is better than nothing. Given that RAW23 had already called out Speculation Dave as my alt in the previous loan thread. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2014.07.08 09:05:00 -
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SCLZ wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:5B is better than nothing. Well certainly can't argue with that  Still, I reckon there would have been some folks who would have fronted up with a combined sum greater than 5b - but maybe I'm being overly optimistic/pessimistic. Sure, I could have put up another loan request in the 20-30B range and hoped to get away with the isk before the MD police arrived on the scene.
However, larger uncollateralised loans tend to take longer to fill and so the risk would have been greater. There were also other time constraints due to the fact that the account only had something like 2 days left on it's sub.
I wasn't interested in getting in to a situation where I was having to defend another blatantly obvious alt from RAW23's advanced eyebrow analysis techniques just so I could liberate an extra 25B.
I think it's important to know when to walk away from a failed scam, because time spent trying to salvage this would have been better spent on something else. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2014.07.08 16:50:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:As you know, RAW23 was not the only one getting suspicious with "eyebrows analysis", in fact if I recall correctly I mentioned there's also (at least) another alt of yours "brewing up" on MD. Sorry, I don't mean to give RAW23 all the glory. I'm sure you and the other people who posted wise statements in these threads can figure out how to share the scalp. But I do feel that RAW23's clinical assassination of Blueprint Seller was pretty telling. With the underlying shill character totally discredited, he then had total traction on any accusations he cared to make about Speculation Dave.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:However I was a bit disappointed at getting out with just 5B, seeing the past bonds I'd have imagined a run off with say 20B or more, the rep grinding done would have allowed for that. You and me both... and certainly I had my eyes on 50B+ for this particular sequence. But it wasn't to be.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:The "sub about to expire" thing does not convince me really much. Knowing you could at a minimum gather 10B and walk off, those additional 5B would have afforded the alt way more than a 1 month PLEX sub renewal. Basically you'd have put 700M or so on the platter to get off with 10B (if not 20, 1 month could afford you to accept a slow ISK trickle). It wasn't really a factor in the decision to exit at 5B, it was a factor in the timing of that exit.
flakeys wrote:At times you take the bullet ... at times you dodge them , looks like i dodged a bullet a while back  . Yeah, I had 25B of public isk in my hands on that one. 
But I wouldn't have been able to live with scamming you or VV. So I had to roll the dice some more. |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2014.07.09 05:04:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Maybe it's less about the money itself (I get the impression that BB isn't going to care much about 20bil one way or the other) and more about amusing himself by seeing how hard he can scam while leaving not-so-subtle tells on his characters. It's much the same as choosing to solo PvP in a notoriously bad ship without scouts or links in order to increase the challenge and thrill. You are not forced to make things hard for yourself, but even somewhat mundane victories become all the more impressive and enjoyable if you do.
I think this is particularly relevant nowdays when there isn't really any auditing going on and good critical analysis is scarce. The barriers to MD scamming are set quite low and the most significant problem you have to overcome is that there isn't much investment activity... a problem for legitimate borrowers and scammers alike.
I wouldn't advise relying too much on eyebrow analysis, because I can click the randomize button just as easily as anyone else! |

Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2014.07.09 09:09:00 -
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flakeys wrote:I resent this comment , even though i am behind on iskratio last months on zkillboard i will NOT tolerate people calling my breacher a notoriously bad ship ....
/me coughs

Breachers are awesome, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
You should come back and help RAW23 and I deal with the terrible infestation of frenchmen he's currently suffering from. |
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